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No billybuddy I am not in bed with him, I am making idiots out of the people who say my friend is retarded and who think he is unable to make his own desicions

it is so astounding to see things written here about autism and aspergers by people who truly have NO CLUE what it is like. i do. handicap? what is 'left' of his life? all these other things i see that are at least condescending of what is a neurological condition. the disorders are developmental. yes, we have some special needs, specially when younger with things that are hard to imagine and even harder to try and explain like stimming, melt downs, non-verbal (but not dumb) regression, sensory overload and shut down. look, i wrote over and over, that he and me and others like us are WHOLE people. we just process things differently. you understand? like mrs rolloff say, 'we just like everybody else we just DO things in a different way.' handicap like the cruel word 'retard' (physically or intelligence challenged or disabled) are terms of way past. they were so inaccurate and look how some here write like we are to be patted on the head like runt puppies not all there. WRONG. we are all here but specially when younger, think of it like we have a stroke and just cant use all we have or need train the brain to run differently. this is why dx in first 18-24 months so critical. all this sayed, ya ~ ok ~ go talk to his parents and say, 'i like your son, he likes me, we want a relationship and in fact, he has packed his things and moves over with me.' now below, you post 'LOL we're both in bed reading this, ur all sick' ~ you are in bed with the young man and a caregiver of 'special need' persons and also homeless persons and drug addicts (which most male prostitutes common known as hustlers or rent boys have been or still are?! dam! i really am on the wrong planet if this add up as 'its all good'! no, this all becomes very strange. what is the name of this school the lad attend where staff has sex with students and not reported? THAT is sick.

LOL, we're both in bed reading this, ur all sick

good to here that her we do the right thing report is the right way to go i no i would cos this make me mad but the just me and so report him sort and let just put to bed abd say no more cos this a good site

I reported him last night and look he is gone

yes sure thing @payalot248, hang on while I phone the gay police and hand myself, you pleb.

Okay hold on first you need to know what autism is, all it really is the lack of ability to recognize emotions and have a difficulty having human interactions. This doesn't make him special needs. Now if he does act like a "child" then that might not be autism.

halix is right. but davz85.. i forgot i wrote this blog.....do i scoop him up and take him to bed.......he should be reported

I am neither here nor there on this subject. But I do ask one question? The boy is 20 not 13 is he to go without the experience and the feeling of sex and wanting to be with someone. Is anyone with a learning disability to be denied the same feeling we all crave and want. If the parent are aware of there sons sexual needs and no that he is gay does he not have the right to try to enjoy what is left of his life like any other person. DAV85 before you do anything you should talk to the parents about this. They should know what their son wants and needs. Just because a person is handicapped dont think for one minute that they do not want to enjoy sex just as much as you or I do. but the parents need to know if there son is gay to provide him with as much normal life as possible.

Good, now please can we put this to bed.

I agree with swifjohn and billybuddy too. The school and teachers need to be investigated. In the US, this is a serious felony and unethical behavor of a school or staff. Also, sex with anyone in 'special care' like this young man - age doesn't come into play. It too is immoral and illegal. The US courts with give you a permanent address at a Federal Facility. Is there any REAL doubt that this is WRONG. How do you think this would make the publics perception of 'gay communities' or GLBT be view other than to bolster beliefs by so many that WE are 'sick'. Just don't go there - Andy

hey davz ~ i'd like to see you next summer when im at holyrood house for a little gathering. i want to know all about this place where you work in the land of me fam's peerage ~ same as HM The Queen! i mean as for homeless boys turn hustlers just to eat and support drug habbit ~ that is what Centre Pointe does best and i let a Lord i know real well speak to another Duke when proper, the one that now the patron of what his mum was and his mum Diana, Princess of Wales and he is Duke of Cambridge. NO MORE ABUSE!

like this is not insane ~ have a look and im so glad this boys mum WIN BIG but it never enough to justify or really make up for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QibLC4LefzY

well ~ some may think i am 'mentally handicapped' ~ but a few here know better and thanks to GOD and me ancestors that i am certainly not poor! now, i was pm'd by a friend to see this blog since he knows im aspie and i speak out about it no problem. i did not see the last paragraph fully and being dyslexic and read too fast not good thing. now one thing when at away school like i was and things go on in the dorms no different than any board school i hear about is one thing. but the staff have sex with students? omgosh~ not hear of jerry sandusky? crikey its a crime and need be report like many yesterdays even if anon. staff have sex with students any age/school ~ but a 'special need' school? CRIME and major. if i could have talk when i was molested ~ i sit on the stand no problem and point me finger say THAT MAN! what i read some here, is like the poll i hear about penn state and how people in pa think of what ncaa does. MOST think it was too harsh. ONLY 15% say not harsh enough. i am brother of different mum to that boy in the shower with that assist coach. fuck football. i say turn the stadium into a concert arena own by non-profit to raise money for abuse victims treatment and ya their pain and suffering. hey ~ dont be a joe paterno! dont hide a jerry sandusky. DONT abuse one with 'diminish capacity' but it is not mental competence it is more like raping a stroke victim! and people think autie/aspie are stupid? retards? wtf?! mad as hell now.

is he for true dx as autistic or aspergian? of course, the apa cant make up its mind about where those of us they long put under 299.80 in dsm iv are going to be in dsm v as of next march or may when all are to be put under autisim spectrum disorder (asd) and while i am prev. dx with aspergers i am entitle to keep it but 'new cases' (and im such a case!) will be 'high functioning autism'

do you understand that either way, this lad has a neuro disorder that is unique to every individual that has the dx including those classifiy as 'pdd-nos' that the new uber liberal health care plan will wipe off of any benefit under the next dsm v and that is what all the change is about ~ funding!

now, im not effeminate but im even at 21 come off what some say 'child like' and not from being silly as i am a lot of time, cos i laff to keep pain away including thoughts of what was done to me at 11 by a total stranger when i wander from me yard to find a friend ~ any friend. i wish i had obeyed me parents.

now i want to make clear, i know i am homosexual. i am a guy and i am blessed to have found someone that we talk serious of being life partners. he is neurotypical and while i am most def still and always will be aspie, i have worked hard over 16 years and a million dollars later to be pretty darn good at many things. me social skills will always suck, but that does not make me 'asexual' or not having sexuality because of neuro (NOT psych) disorder that is well treated with newer meds.

i ask you, please and politely, despite any attraction of cuteness or apparent need for natural urges to be very and i mean very careful. you are dealing with a whole human being, but one who thinks totally different than you and other nt's. i can speak with fact, that his emotions run stronger and in different ways as most autie/aspies do. just like many here know, i misperceive some things a good and true friend say to me and then go nuts when i realize it not what i think it means. i tried to kill meself from the total button of life frustrations top off by broke heart but nobodys fault really, just the way our brains work. be careful with the human heart of this one and do you know how much he has already suffered? as for his stating his sexuality ~ again ~ he is whole and of intelligence so yes he knows himself and 'girly' ~ that can be simply he is a gentle boy who was protected from the bullying and rough stuff in like so many government schools (ALL kids should be safe where ever they learn as schools are their workplace. adults have laws to protect them in their workplace!)

what meds does he take for the asd symptoms? ya, the goal is to have as normal a life as possible. but i would lie to say my life ever be 'normal' what ever that means really. what need be sayed is that it never be neurotypical.

now i have friends here who are older and they know for true how i hate ageism. but i tell you, this 20 year old, well he is of legal age ~ but is he? does he receive benefit for being disabled? he most likely is on psychotropic meds, at least an antidepressant and maybe an antispsychotic used off label to help the antidepressant work proper. what other issues? dyslexic? (not infrequent in asd dx'x) what im asking is, medically and socially does he qualify as 'disabled' as much as i hate that word.

i will state here again, as many still do not know (and i suffered being called a 'retard' because of speech impediment and shyness by those who never saw me sit down and play beethoven 9th at age 5 without ever have a lesson!) asd be it autie or aspie is NOT 'intellgence challenged' (the correct and i dont mean political for what was called 'Mental R' before so cruel!) quite the opposite in many ways and with very specific interest and also routine.

i tell you as a friend living in a society where multi-millions are being spent for 'marriage' while NT teens (and maybe asd ones also) are taking their own lives ~ it is not by any means acceptable to be considered 'take advantage of' a disabled person at any age! this is not said judgement wise, but others dont maybe think like most here could. i come down to the point of just being true to you, what many would say about you, to you and worse.

now i had docs tell me i dont know what i talk about with sexuality and NOT one says that anymore. i mean these guys are the best of the best and from harvard etc. even they have learn from me and they help me grow, i am WHOLE but still very different. this lad, he is WHOLE and even bless him if he have the stims and other severe symptoms when littler has growed beyond them. he is sentient to use term used well on star trek and that need be respected.

dismiss and walk away? that would be cruel. why not just be a mentor and friend like so many of the older friends i have here. unless you truly study all that asd is and come to understand how different he is from you and all nt people, and even i dont know exact because all of us under 'asd' are unique with how we exist as beings ~ well i do not believe that 'bed time' is at all a good idea. do i really need say that there are more than not who would consider this abusive, despite his age? you in a position of 'authority' and 'trust'?

please know i dont post this meanly. im just saying for YOU and YOUR LIFE you need think about what this could lead to and strongly and friendly urge you to help him find others like he and i are, FIRST for support and that can start here: http://www.wrongplanet.net and you can learn a lot there as well!

also please encourage him to join at http://www.trevorspace.org

you should not have to think about report to the cop and you should be a shame of youe self i work with the kids well ther teen lads and not for one mont do i think i should go to bed with them you should find out the center and report if it happen to him it happens to other so get stop now plz do the right thing cos there a person at the end of the day and well all do the right thing and look after then not think we can do what the fuck we like

Good, good, it's all good, thanks everyone for your thoughts, we appreciate them all.

Did i say it was ok, no....but you spamming everyone here is uncalled for, let his local authorities handle it not you

It Took me the best part of 2 hours to gather my thoughts enough to post this blog. I have a cousin who is SEVERLY autistic - has been for the past 25 years from birth. He has very limited speech,no social skills and no friends outside of family.
We are proud of him that he has a part time job packing shelves in a grocery store. But when i read the comment of someones dilema " Do I scoop him up and carry him off to my bed"
it frightens me like all hell that someone would even get the thought of wanting to taking advantage of another person who is YOUNGER and less fortunate than themselves through no fault of their own

WTF? IS THE MATTER WITH YOU

UNCALLED FOR?? DID YOU READ THE BLOG POSTED YESTERDAY? A 55 YEAR OLD IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH A MENTALLY ILL 20 YR OLD. THAN HE SAYS HE FORGOT HE WRITTEN THIS BLOG?.....".DO I SCOOP HIM UP AND CARRY HIM OFF TO MY BED?".................AND THIS IS UNCALLED FOR?????????????????????????????????????