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@jasechase...I am going to disagree on the bi thing...there truly are bisexual people...and while it is true for lots of gay guys, that bi is a stop on the way to come out...it isn't true for others...there is some science to that speaks to it...bi folks have a lot of issues to deal with..and we shouldn't add to it by dissing them..they get enough of that from the str8 folks.

@mygaylife, your friend is going through a difficult time in his life. I know exactly how difficult this is for you too. I hate to say it, but he may be heading down the road that many gay men have taken before. Some gays try to live the straight life, get married and have kids to please the world around them. They deny themselves of the true love that they desire. I think you should have a long serious heart to heart talk with him. You said that when you were kissing, he started French kissing you. That says A LOT about his true feelings. Maybe you could suggest to him that the two of you could have a secret love affair. If he is open to that idea, it may be a start to what might lead him to coming out. He hasn't even really come out to himself yet, so it may be a long process.

@jasechase I think you're right at least in my case I've been with girls but am only looking for a long committed relationship with a guy and really only want to be with my bestie I've had other cute guys hit on me but am not interested in them because when I see them I think of him and how much I love him and don't want anyone else.

Thank you @gm4yngr I think it's very similar to my bestie the night we hooked up I told him I was falling for him and he said to me he was to and a few weeks later he said to a girl we both know and trust that we were in love (he told me that not her) but he still tells me he's straight so I keep getting mixed signals from him I think his family has a lot to do with it he loves his Mom so much and doesn't want to hurt her in any way his brother has kids and I know he wants kids something I can't give him as much as I would if I could I seen him last night for about an hour he hugged me so tight and he lifted me off the ground kissed my cheek and said I love you then walked me outside hugged me again and said he loved me so I I'm at least sure he loves me. I just think about him 24/7 and want to be with him so bad it hurts.

You know that old saying. The only difference between a straight guy and a gay guy is about 10 pints of beer.

bi is a very curious gay guy in denial, just waiting to bust out

I have a similar situation with my best friend. He was my roommate for about 8 years, I've sucked him off a few times. Wish I could have done that everyday. We very seldom talked about sex, but I made it clear to him that I'm not into anal. When I asked about mouth kissing me, he said no, says he's 100% str8. Many times we watched TV cuddling on the couch. We had separate bedrooms, only shared a bed on occasional road trips. Every night before bed and each morning before leaving for work, we would hug and say "I love you". In spite of my wanting more, it was a nice relationship. He moved away a few years ago to be closer to his work but we are still best friends. In fact, he is sleeping in a spare room at my house right now. He arrived yesterday to help me work on my house, we hugged when he arrived. We had a few beers together and hugged and each said "I love you" before bed last night. I am sure he really is bi, but just wants to find a female to be with. I know that he still wishes he could be with his ex-wife, but she is happily re-married.

I moved to Wisconsin from NJ and I am having problems finding the gay community so I am stuck her watch porn my by computer

Thanks to the guys that commented i got some helpful ideas but I was really hoping for some more feedback like has anyone else had anything like this happen to them?

I think he wants to go gay but hasn't reach the point where he can overcome whatever conditioning he's endured. The fact that he knows you're gay and is still your friend implies that he wants to be close to the gay world but doesn't have the nerve to fully step in yet. So you need to subtly and incrementally nudge him in that direction. Here's an idea. Since he was watching tranny porn, the next time you're together and alone, suggest that you put some on because you're into it as well (even if you're not, he is). If he agrees, at some point after you've been watching it for a while, tell him that you secretly like to dress up in women's lingerie. Then ask him if he'd like to see you in it sometime. Watch his face. If he smiles then he does. If he hedges about saying yes then cajole him until he does. Go to Victoria's Secret or your friendly neighborhood sex shop and find something in your size (A cup for the bra). If you feel awkward doing this then just say it's for your girlfriend. Don't forget to pick up a bottle of sex lube. When preparing for the big night, shave your body completely smooth. You want to make yourself as feminine looking as possible. Do an enema on yourself then bathe. When you get there and the two of you are settled in and ready, do a slow striptease for him until you're down to your outfit then dance erotically for him. Be sure your cock is hard. Hopefully, he'll be so turned on that any reticence he may have had about gay sex before will be overcome by his lust. Ideally, you want to get him to fuck you. That's what the enema and lube is for. If you can get him to slide his dick into your ass and ejaculate inside you, then he can no longer live in denial. He has crossed over and is now yours. Let the group know how you make out.

I agree but would add one thing....I think this guy is some degree of bi....maybe it's more, like 20% gay-80 % str8...but I'd bet he's bi. Next time ask him if you can suck him off. After all a mouth is a mouth no matter who it's attached to. (although guys ALWAYS give better head) I'll bet he let's you....and that's a good start. :)

We also made out once before this. We were watching a movie and I started cuddling him on the sofa and kissing his lips and he started kissing me back and he started French kissing me so I went down his pants and sucked his cock. at that time he said to me ' I guess I'm Bi" and by that time it was getting late and he had to go home. So when I seen him the next day he told me he wasn't Bi that he was Straight. I was like what ever! We are still besties but I'm in love with him and I can't stop thinking about him. I know he loves me but he won't let me kiss him on the lips anymore but he kisses me on the cheek and forehead all the time.