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<p>I lost my two best friends and only friends a few years ago to me being gay, so I want friends--although I may not admit it. I convinced myself after a time that I didn't need friends because: (a) I'm gay, and people don't like what they don't understand, and look at the people who still don't accept us as a community; (b) I have trouble being a friend, which is what my family therapist said to me years ago; and (c) I may have Asberger's, which is what my phsycologist said to me when I was recently out of college around 2008.</p>
<p>It's hard, though, not to want to have friendships--especially from some (guy) I perceive as attractive and popular. Often, it doesn't go well, and I end up looking like a fool. At my job before my recent one, I met such a guy who was like "seeing the face of God" for me he was so handsome. I immediately or soon thereafter friended him on Facebook. Our boss asked me to help some co-workers before going home for the night, which he did for me even though he was in the same room and heard the exact same request. I promptly unfriended him on Facebook to show him how mad I was. I think he noticed, talked to me, and then we were Facebook friends again. I knew that he liked and made dubstep music, so I found out everything I could about it--really just odd facts about artists to get him into making it more. Well, the end result was that he said I was smothering him. We were something of frenemies, according to him. At one point, he wanted to stay away (he also accused me of stalking him online) but I said I didn't want that. I told him I probably had Asberger's, I guess as a way to explain my odd behavior so he might stay--although I didn't explicitly say that was the reason I told him I probably had AS. I also told him I was gay, but not only him. To make him comfortable, I told some co-workers when we were sharing secrets on break. Of course, all this blew up in my face when we had a fight at work. It was really intense, filled with anger and sadness like two lovers having a quarrel. He thought I had a crush on him. But he still said to friend him on Facebook, even if he was only trying to be nice. I had since unfriended him again after one of our spats, but, when I was between jobs, I friended him again, and he accepted.</p>
<p>At my new job, I met another such guy (why do they have to follow me everywhere?). He's 18. The other guy was 19, but I find it surprising each time how more seemingly mature they are than me. My mother told me this job was a way to start over, and that I should focus on the job andlet friendship's develop naturally. I normally work with him, so I got to know hi and his buddies. I rapped for him and sat at lunch with him, talking to him and making him laugh. After a long time--longer than at my other job--I finally friended him, along with a few other co-wrokers so it wouldn't seem so awkward. We had received new work uniforms, and, sometime after we got them, I overheard said guy said he wished he could go shirtless under the vest (and the person he was walking with said, "That's so gay."). Then, in response to me saying the same thing, one of his buddies smirked and said that everybody desn't wear an undershirt under their vest anyway. We, of course, have to wear work shirts under the vest (which is what he meant and I obviously didn't pick up on. Shortly thereafter, one of my facebook friends (who wasn't said 18-year-old guy's facebook friend, but was someone we both had worked with once) posted exactly what said guy and I were talking about--only he had the vest zipped up. I shared the pic, and said guy liked it. Needless to say, that prompted me to post six pictures of myself--only I unzipped my vest so you could see my hair and belly button and, on the last photo, nipples. I was not only trying to be funny, but also cool and tough. I also wore sunglasses for my photos and was in an "I want YOU" pose for one. FACEBOOK IS AND NEVER HAS BEEN MY FRIEND; NOTHING GOOD COMES OF IT. The day after, I was fine until said guy accused me of sexual harrassment (which made me less want to talk to him). I explained to him that that wasn't my intention as well as the reasons behind the photos and how I wanted to be perceived (primarily as funny; I left out the cool and tough parts because I thought no one would believe that. I hoped, though, that said guy got the vibe because I told him I thought that's what Army guys (He was in the National Gaurd) liked and that it was a guy thing. The first night or so after, when I obviously had my head down in embarrassment (which I indicated verbally after his harrassment comment) and dejection once I spotted him, he put his hands on my shoulders and said "Ke-VIIIN" in the tough way he always says it. That didn't change. He still talks to me and sat with me once so far at lunch, but I don't feel the same closenes I once did with him. One time, as if in sympathy, he tapped his knuckle on my spine as he went behind me without looking at me--kind of wierd for a sexual harrassment accuser. I didn't lose my job, thank god. Indeed, I sent the pictures to people I thought would be cool with it--more than hiim. I even received some positive feedback from the OP that prompted my photos and another Facebook friend. When said guy and his friends wanted me to remove my pictures as soon as I got home, I thought that I needed to show my sincerity in not posting again and so I unfriended them permanently. I want to be friends, but I'm not sure how he (and his buddies) feel about me now. I have even been called "wierd" in jest by them, so I don't know if they know I'm gay or not. Also, when he saw me after the incident, he said, "Are you still here? Good." I guess at this point I should mention that I told everyone, which is how I really feel, when prompted that I often don't feel good about myself, so maybe he was respondng to that. I also said that I was glad he was at work as well. One night, he even said I deserved a promotion, but then asked me where (what location)

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Davey1965
9 years ago

Good on you Braedan for taking the time to write so much....Im proud to see such help given to someone needing it Oh and Jackingamer Just remember that Phycologists are experienced and if he said u may have AS he may just be right after seeing you up to 9 times

9 years ago

Hey jackinggamer28,

I agree with others that the blog post is a bit long and hard to follow at points. Nevertheless I read it carefully through from start to finish. I see exactly the situation you're in, I think, and can feel how confusing and painful it is. Like others have said, romance or flirting between work colleagues is definitely a bad idea unless there is absolutely unmistakeable chemistry and unambiguous, not mixed, messages being sent. Even then the romance has to move out of the workplace entirely and the chemistry and messages have to be clear somewhere else as well. Friendship and romance can be brutal. And if you get into a situation where it starts to go bad or has gone bad in the past, you wind up projecting that as a kind of hauntedness that people can pick up on and might not feel comfortable with. The main thing is that you mention Aspergers Syndrome. I have it. I was diagnosed about 10 years ago; I'm all certified Aspergers, got the badge, got the t-shirt, the paperwork, the wallpaper :). But unlike you I don't have a problem with it. It's not a bad thing. It's not a mental illness and isn't seen as one. It's just a certain kind of 'being in the world', a certain kind of mind that has a lot of positive aspects to it. I simply have loads of fun with it and don't even take it, or myself, seriously. And so my friends all have fun with it as well. The more I just feel I can be myself, the less it's even an issue at all. In me it's mostly about an obsessive interest in different things, topics that grab my attention, a restless energy and getting caught up in various 'proejcts' all the time. As well, as you may notice, I have a tendency to waffle on a bit :) (I can blab on like you've never seen...lol). People think those with AS are 'socially awkward', which can often be true and leave them isolated. But I've found, because I love people so much, that I've learned to turn it into the reverse, a high degree of sociability. The key is, if you can't help but be focused on the contents of your own head, just relax start paying attention more to other people. Let them do the work as well. Otherwise, like someone in the comments said, you're trying to hard. Turn your interest in your own relation to other people into a simple, free, unconditional interest in them and what they're interested in. (I know you did that with the dubstep thing but I mean just do it in conversation, in the flow of life). Lose yourself in other peoples' humanity and beauty, not just their attractiveness. Let them hold you spellbound. Enjoy them expressing themselves as much as fulfilling the need to express yourself. I'm very happy to be your friend if you want to pm me. I can feel that your situation is difficult. Just to warn you, I have a lot of ongoing conversations online so might not always respond immediately, but I will always respond. Best wishes and send you a big warm hug, Braedan

9 years ago

Never mix work with pleasure. Sounds like you are trying to hard to make friends. If a friendship developeds with a coworker then so be it, but don't work so hard at it, that will come naturaly.

9 years ago

@Siverbullut49 NS GM4YNGR: It seems that my co-workers may be being jerks, too, then.

9 years ago

Thanks for the great advice I've been given so far. I will try not to worry so much, which is easier said than done. I'll just go to work and keep doing what I do and not let people get to me. @gm4yngr: I don't have a psychologist now, especially after the last one told me I might have AS after we only had been talking 6-9 times! That really hurt. I may look into getting one in the future, though.

Davey1965
9 years ago

I agree with Marshmont and Fred below, makes some good points .Dont overthing things and worry too much.I havnt read ur blog but i know it means alot to you so good luck and i hope u get some more advice

gm4yngr
9 years ago

Kevin, this is a long and somewhat difficult to follow blog. Have you discussed this situation with your phsycologist? It seems to me that you worry to much and try to over-think situations. I believe that the best thing to do is not get involved with co-workers. I'm not saying to ignore your co-workers, just be as nice to them as they are to you. Don't pursue them, let them take the lead in how close they want to be with you. It is best for you not to appear "needy" and you certainly don't want to be called a stalker! Concentrate on doing your job, accept friendships that develop without pushing them.

9 years ago

I honestly like better when said guy is not at work sometimes now, and I have deleted my friends and am no longer on Facebook.

9 years ago

How do you explain said guy's behavior?

9 years ago

I just want things to go back to the way they ere at work and with him. I guess it will take time--a long time. They say time heals all wonds, right? Now, I just want to work and stop thinking about this and feeling bad.

9 years ago

Said guy even called me "bro" one time, just as I did to him. I'm not even sure what that even means anymore. I hope it means "friend." Anyway, I was distressed after losing my friends and the phsycho telling me I might have AS. It was like a short depression. and, to end the story above, what location I'd like to go within the company. He was just checking my loyalty to the whole company, but I thought he had other reasons. He doesn't talk to me as much as he did. Maybe it's just me feeling different, too.

9 years ago

Bottom Line: I just wanna be friends with him, but I feel I'm getting mixed messages from him and that he may have ulterior motives. I want to trust people, but I don't, I think after my friend experience.