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Why ask us to be negative?

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Every day in our lives people like us are critisised, marginalised and cast in a negative light by people in our communities and the media. Only Today i was shouting at some stupid Catholic Cardinal from Scotland who was describing gay people being married as a grotesque abberation. Here we are in a community where we don't have to be subjected to any unjust critism and excluded. Yet in our profiles for no good reason we are asked to list "Turn offs" some people state the obvious like nasty people or smelly unhygenic people but many people feel it necessary to list other attributes that essentialy are describing other members here, it must be hard for someone who is overweight or not very tall or skinny or big or older to see another member saying that the hate people like them. It's just not necessary and is not healthy either. why cant we say what we do like and just leave it at that! We can be positive and make everyone feel included instead of providing a platform that allows people to unwittingly dicriminate against, and insult other fellow members; especialy given that we all get enough of that in our lives. Can we not get rid or the turn offs and have more turn ons??

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OLDERGUY
12 years ago

i like the turn offs,. it keeps things interesting, its diferent. also a place to vent a bit!

12 years ago

Everyone has made comments worthy of consideration. There are several points that seem to stand out here to me. The first one is that the phrase 'turn offs' can be taken ambiguously. Some here, including myself, say that their turn offs are 'discrimination, homophobes, negative ppl, etc...none of which are meant in a sexual connotation. Others here say hairy or overweight ppl, etc...which ARE meant in a sexual context. As a result, when someone says older ppl, which I am, I'm not clear as to how it is meant. If the heading clarifies it's meaning, as in 'sexual turn offs', then I would have to change my response and would say, 'I will keep these to myself', simply because I do not want to offend anyone, which brings up my second point: As RusT says, is it really necessary to express turn offs, or sexual turn offs, and risk offending someone, when they can be positioned in a positive way? If you say in your 'sexual turn ons', smooth, young ppl, does this not state that you are not interested in others who do not fit into this catagory? Diplomacy and curtousy hurts no one. My good friend Mike states that RusT is being way too sensitive to words, and I understand where he's coming from. Some ppl are tougher skinned. However, many ppl, young and old ARE emotionally sensitive by nature. It's inate in their personalities. Also, words or wording can be misunderstood or misinterpreted by different cultures, which is why diplomacy exists in the world. Positioning comments positively and diplomatically is indeed an action of supporting each other, and is something we all should consider putting into action. Hugs to u all.....Dennis

12 years ago

i believe you are way too sensitive and reactive to speech. the turn off thing is what someone doesn't like or want. i'm turned off sexually by old guys and i are one. it would be natural for young guys wanting other young guys. the catholic guy is spuuing the catholic policy. it is a political speech. the world is perfect in my eyes. all the human turmoil is guided by karma. action/reaction. take the fear away that you feel and the anger will subside.

12 years ago

that Catholic Cardinal from Scotland who desribed Gay marriage as an abomination shouldn't really be so homophobic... I mean for a guy who gets down on his knees everyday hoping that some guy he loves is gonna cum again????

12 years ago

I suppose if you stop people from saying what they like you are discriminating against free speach, however if you ask people to list the things or people that they don't like then maybe it's not free becasue it has got a cost, not to the person saying it but to some people who are reading it. This will obviously seem to be a bit of a picky irrelivance to some people who can't imagine what it would be like to be one of those people who is affected by this a lot. However I have met a few people here who are badly affected by this, and I don't see why the rest of us should be unnecessarily encouraged to make them feel worse. I can say what I need to about myself without having to list characteristics about others that I dont like, and I make friends because of what we enjoy and not because of what we dislike. So is it really so important that we must keep this negative profile section.

Toby19
12 years ago

We all have turn offs it doesnt mean we have to say them personaly to the other person, thats the wrong thing to do and unaceptable .. but if i am looking for friends or someone to share me, then the turn off's are those things that i personaly find in a guy, it has nothing to do with what the guy looks like, for me its more personality traits.. saying what turns me off on a social networking site tells the other one reading it a lot about more about me and me you. In the RW it doesnt take long to know if you like how that person thinks, here we only to begin with have our profiles .... both options should be given, after all you dont have to fill it in ... freedom of choice .... as it should be ..... :) ... i suppose if you dont let others have the choice of saying their turn offs then your discriminating against free speach .....just a thought .... :)

12 years ago

I agree its normal for us to like some things and not to like other things, but my point is that its not necessary to say that you dont like that. Just as in RL on the street you possibly wouldn't tell some big guy that you don't like bald people or go round declaring "I hate drunk women" in a bar, because it makes some people feel bad or makes them mad LOL. I think that here as in RL when you want to say something negative you turn it into a possitive you can say instead I like ppl with long hair and I like ppl that dont drink and that way nobody gets HURT lol. As I say, here we are people who have had enough of negative stereo-typing and i think that we could all try a bit harder with each other, and realise that when you put something in" turn offs" (which I happen to think is a profile section that should GO) you ARE talking about real people here, and not imaginary people out there, and it DOES badly affect people who constantly see comments about themselves, as i say in my profile... Courtesy, manners and politeness cost nothing and are always appreciated. Nobody really has the right to critisise, exclude, insult or impose their expectations on others here. I am definately not everyone's cup of tea and neither are you! so lets be nice and be happy :)

ToniBoss
12 years ago

Yes, but if you write down something for 'turn off' , this does not mean that I hate these persons, but only that they do not excite me sexual. And everybody has some people who they find hot und some who aren't attractive for them. Ane even them, the old or big ones has often somthing written on 'turn off'. It's normal...and not something bad..in my opinion...

just4today
12 years ago

Understand tht in our society NEGATIVITY SELLS!!!
Just look at an example: how many high school and other kids volunteer their time and efforts for causes? ((Working in soup kitchens, volunteering at shelters, mentoring other kids, big bros/sis, etc. Wher are THOSE stories in the papers? Page 26 in section C next to the obits!
Kid gets picked up w 1/4 oz, or a blunt? PAGE 1, w BOLD bold headline that proclaims all youths hav drug problems and our schools r havens and meccas 4 the drug trade!!
Get my point?? It IS a SORRY commentary on societal vales.
So juss b true to yourself, help others, and try 2 do the next right thing.......only God can judge th real u!!!!

12 years ago

i agree what u say..the Catholic Church has itself a lot to answer for.. in as much many Catholic priests have sexualy abused young boys in schools..churches..homes over many years and most of the abuse has been all hushed up by the higher archy in the Catholic Church..they have a lot to answer for..so they should not preach about what they abuse themselves..live and let live is what i say!!