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NYT Editorial: It’s Not Too Soon to Debate Gun Control

denf Blog Last Activity 6 years ago 478 views 10 comments

This is a provocative issue. Every time someone willfully kills innocent people we are all diminished. The "prayers and thoughts" politicians offer to mollify us don't seem to be having much effect: if it has, I've missed it. What on earth is it going to take to get some substantive change? It's little wonder as to why we're viewed as barbarians by the rest of the civilized world.


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Icecream
6 years ago

According to gun lovers there is never a right time. I can tell you now 500 children can be gunned down tomorrow and it will still not be the right time according these sick Individuals. 

6uldv84u
6 years ago

Thank you! Exactly right.  Barbarians hiding behind a misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment 

voyeur327
6 years ago

I own two long guns, a .22 cal. "squirrel" gun and a 20 ga. over/under shotgun.  I haven't fired them for over 30 years (when I quit hunting and participating in "trap shoots"), but I take them out of the closet once a year and clean & oil them, then put them back lovingly! I used to own a .380 semi-auto pistol, but realized it was serving no purpose, so I sold it (legally). Politically I mainly identify as a "conservative Democrat"  (or  Communist as one alleged friend so kindly put it).  I support the second amendment, and although I don't feel the need for a firearm because of any "fears", I will continue to keep my guns (a little bit because of fact the shotgun was my grandfather's and it was a really big deal to me when he gave it to me one Christmas).  While I do support the 2nd amendment, there has to be some common sense in gun acquisition rights and procedures.  Joe Citizen has no valid reason to own a "bump stock" equipped gun, a military assault rifle, an RPG launcher or a mortar.  It seems that every time someone mentions "gun control" (a blanket term for any firearm related legislation) the NRA circles the wagons and the anti gun groups go on the attack and no meaningful dialogue takes place concerning sensibly preventing mentally unqualified people from buying guns.   I know several NRA members, and they are not "gun nuts", but normal respectable folks who legally use their firearms for hunting and competition, and they realize something has to be done.  The NRA used to, and probably still does, sponsor safety and hunting training for gun owners of all ages, including young hunters--this is a good thing!  With that being said, when NRA leaders view all "gun control" dialogue as bad, with no room for honest discussion, it just heightens the animosity toward the organization from the anti gun folks.  The "church neighbor" gun owner who took on the Texas shooter no doubt saved many lives, and good on him!  If he shot the guy in his truck after he wrecked, well I'm sure that will be a debate for months if it happened.


So what do we do about "gun control"?  In a country whose citizens have owned firearms since it's inception, if Congress passed a law tomorrow outlawing private ownership, how would the government "get back" all those millions of guns?  I doubt many would just voluntarily drop them off at the local sheriff's office or precinct!  How about they mobilize the National Guard and go door to door confiscating guns--that would probably lead to those guns being used for armed insurrection! Eradicating guns will never stop those who want to kill as has been proven in several instances in recent months and years by guys in rental trucks and airliners, but controlling who can legally purchase guns can certainly save some innocent lives.  How about some sensible dialogue toward sensible solutions instead of "...the wanna take my gun.." and  "...they're a bunch of gun nuts...", just sensible dialogue, please! 

halpinhope
6 years ago

It really does break my heart a little bit everytime this happens.  I know that America isn't going  to give up it's guns but to deny that there is a correlation between your gun laws and these kind of incidents is just plain wrong.  It's been revealed that he didn't have license but had bought 4 guns across two states last year.  Surely even the most ardent supporter can see that something is very very wrong here.

wunderbois
6 years ago

To me it is just tncredible that a country or state forbids a 20 yo to drink alcohol but then allows him to buy an assault rifle..... As a senior citizen in europe I am ever grateful for the USA's decisive intervention in WW2 but you have got your priorities wrong somewhere along the line since then.......very sad.

denf
6 years ago

Post script:


The link to the article is found in the first (bottom) post.

mophead2009
6 years ago

thoughts and prayers are only a salve to the living and dont bring back the dead - the dead are buried the survivors heal but traumatised and so the cycle goes on - and on - guns arnt candy .... nor is heroin ... and you need a test before driving a car .... ok im a safe distance away ..... you reap waht you sow ,,,, your all fair game .... turkey shoot .... feel sorry for the guys digging your grave .... harsh but true dont whine about mass shootings get over it mercurians stop being so religeoustwat

PHPeter
6 years ago

So you want to debate if the 'neighbor' should or shouldn't have had a gun to stop the Globalists' puppet ?

denf
6 years ago

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/05/opinion/editorials/editorial-debate-gun-control.html